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'''Disclaimer''': This pricing guide is the opinion of Jessica Alpha after doing months of research and market analysis. Its intended use is as an introduction to pricing horses on HA 3d for the purpose of buying and selling on the Market/Auction within the game. This guide does not account for personal preferences, Academy Dollar value of horses, or actual day to day pricing. A brief discussion of "special horses" and general AD transfer rules has been included at the end of this guide.  
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'''Disclaimer:''' Keep in mind this is a pricing "guide" and not a set in stone pricing manual. As the game changes with updates and supply/demand changes, so will the pricing ranges. However, using this guide will help you to sell and buy successfully.
  
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==Golden Rule:==
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A horse is worth what the average buyer is willing to pay for it.
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==Pricing Guide for regular horses==
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'''Pricing for regulars with max (95%+) personalities at Level 1'''
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9tp and below = 100k
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10tp = 200k - 300k
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11tp = 300k - 400k
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12tp = 500k - 1.5m
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'''Pricing for regulars with weak (75-85%) personalities at Level 1'''
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9tp and below = 100k
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10tp = 150k - 200k
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11tp = 200k - 300k
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12tp = 300k - 400k
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'''Pricing for regulars with middle (<75%) personalities at Level 1'''
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9tp and below = 100k
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10tp = 100k
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11tp = 100k - 150k
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12tp = 150k - 200k
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==Pricing Guide for rare horses==
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'''Pricing for rares with max (95%+) personalities at Level 1'''
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6tp and below = 100k - 1 mil
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7tp = 5 mil - 7 mil
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8tp = 6 mil - 8 mil
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9tp = 7 mil - 9 mil
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10tp = 8 mil - 10 mil
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11tp = 10 mil - 20 mil
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12tp = 50 mil - 150 mil
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'''Pricing for rares with weak (75-85%) personalities at Level 1'''
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6tp and below = 100k - 650k
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7tp = 4 mil - 5 mil
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8tp = 5 mil -6 mil
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9tp = 6 mil - 7 mil
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10tp = 7 mil - 8 mil
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11tp = 8 mil - 10 mil
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12tp = 20 mil - 35 mil
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'''Pricing for rares with middle (<75%) personalities at Level 1'''
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6tp and below = 100k - 350k
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7tp = 1 mil - 2 mil
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8tp = 2 mil - 3 mil
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9tp = 3 mil - 4 mil
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10tp = 5 mil
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11tp = 5 mil - 8 mil
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12tp = 10 mil - 20 mil
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==Pricing Guide for Daily Prize Wheel horses==
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'''Low Tier'''
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Rosetta Stone = 35 mil - 75 mil
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Rosetta Stonicorn = 50 mil - 100 mil
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Glow Peacock = 50 mil - 100 mil
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Glow Peacock Unicorn = 75 mil - 150 mil
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Forest Kitty = 75 mil - 150 mil
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Forest Kitticorn = 100 mil - 200 mil
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'''Middle Tier'''
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Bumblebee = 150 mil - 250 mil
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Bumblebee Unicorn = 250 mil - 300 mil
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Snuffles = 300 mil - 400 mil
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Snuffliecorn = 400 mil - 500 mil
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CooCooCaChu = 500 mil - 600 mil
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CooCooCaChuCorn = 600 mil - 700 mil
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Puddly = 700 mil - 800 mil
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Puddlicorn = 800 mil - 1 bil
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'''High Tier'''
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Koda = 1 bil - 2 bil
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Koda Unicorn = 2 bil - 3.5 bil
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Obsidian = 3 bil - 5 bil
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Obsidian Unicorn = 5 bil - 7.5 bil
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Paradox = 6 bil - 8 bil
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Paradox Unicorn = 8 bil - 10 bil
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Firebringer = 10 bil - 12 bil
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Firebringer Unicorn = 12 bil - 15 bil
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Kumari = 15 bil - 17.5 bil
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Kumari Unicorn = 17.5 bil - 25 bil
  
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==Golden Rule:==
 
  
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A horse is worth what the average buyer is willing to pay for it.  
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''Note: The value of Daily Prize Wheel horses decreases as more horses are won. The speed of decrease in value depends on the '''difficulty of winning''' one of the horses; therefore low tier horses will have their value decreased faster than high tier horses.''
  
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==Factors that Determine Horse Value:==
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==Pricing Guide on leveled horses==
  
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While you may get lucky and a buyer buys your horse for way more than what the average person will pay for it, this does not happen often. Realistically, the average price is a price range based on what horses have been selling for on the market (and how quickly they have sold). The exact value of a horse changes (sometimes daily), but what does not change are the basic make-ups for what makes a good horse. Most horses range in price from 500k (500,000) to 100 mil (100,000,000). The market is starting to even out some and you will see that horses that are priced over 100 mil are either very GOOD horses, or they are sitting there for several days and no one is buying them. After your horse has been on market for 5 days without selling, the game will automatically take your horse off market and suggest that you consider lowering the price. Whether you are wanting to put your horse on market for it to sell within the five day limit, sell your horse on auction, or you are looking to buy a horse off of the auction/market, the following features can be used to determine more accurately the value of a horse:
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When pricing horses, you must also include their level value. The above guides are for level 1 horses. Level values vary depending on the trainer used, but the '''average''' level values are as follows:
  
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1 - 10 = < 5 mil
  
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===Breed:===
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10 - 20 = 5 mil - 15 mil
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If everything else is the same (same lvl, personality, talents, gender, placement, age, brand) a "rare" horse will always be worth more than a regular horse. We will tackle pricing for breeds later.
 
  
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'''Regular Horses:'''
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20 = 30 = 15 mil - 30 mil
  
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A horse that does not need breeding vitamins to create (by breeding an lvl 5 or higher stallion with an lvl 5 or higher under age 14 mare) are called regular horses. They come in many colors and can have overlay patterns. When you visit a horse in the stable, check the "Appearance" tab to see what options you have. Be careful! If you have a rare horse and you change its appearance, it will '''not be a rare anymore''', and it may not be possible to change it back.
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30 = 40 = 50 mil - 100 mil
  
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'''Generally speaking Regular horses sell on the market around these prices:
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40 = 50 = 100 mil - 200 mil
  
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*lvl 10 or below 9 talents or below: 1-400,000 (some players put these horses up for $1 to help out new players, other players will "sell to the academy").
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50 = 60 = 200 mil - 300 mil
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*lvl 10 or below 10 talents: 100,000k-600,000k
 
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*lvl 10 or below 11 talents: 500,000- 1 mil (so a lvl 10 11tp born might sell for 1 mil).
 
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*lvl 5 or below 12 talents: 900,000- 3 mil (this depends on the horse personality and where the talent points are).
 
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As the horse reaches higher levels, it's value will increase in accordance with it's personality and it's talent point placements. To see how to place talents based on personality (this will increase the value of the horse the most), see the [[Mini Guide: Talent Points and Personalities]]
 
  
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'''Lvl 30-40 regular 12tp born horses with an okay to good personality and ok to accurate talent point placement can sell for 50-200 mil''' depending on exact level and '''player personal preference'''. 10tp to 11tp horse over lvl 30 will sell for a slightly lower price range (about 40mil- 150 mil).
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60 - 70 = 500 mil - 1 bil
  
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'''Special Breeds:'''
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70 - 80 = 1 bil - 1.5 bil
  
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(''rares that people bred using vitamins, or reward horses that were bought with Academy Dollars/Loyalty Points'') with 10tp or more talent points can go anywhere from 5 mil to 500 mil. However, the number of talent points and the placement of these talents can really change the price. For example:
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80 = 90 = 1.5 bil - 2 bil
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*A Tiger horse that has an "extreme perso", 12 talent points at lvl 1 (meaning its a 12tp born) would be worth around 100m-300m depending on where the talent points are place in relation to the personality (so a Flat Track Bully horse has Big Racer talent points, it will decrease the value significantly, but still be worth more than a low TP tiger).
 
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*A Tiger horse that as a "middle perso", and lvl 1 with 3 talent points would be worth almost nothing (maybe 1-2 mil).
 
  
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===Talent point placement===
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90 = 100 = 2 bil - 3 bil
  
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This depends on the type of personality the horse has. (this is under the "PERSONALITY/TALENTS" tab after you select a specific horse from your horses tab, or when you visit a horse in it's stable)
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''To calculate the horses total training value, add each level gaps training value together to find the total. If the level goal is in the middle of a gap (level 25, for instance) go by the low end of the scale.''
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GENERALLY speaking, at least 2 talents in the first 3 boxes (super speed, acceleration, distance runner) are the most important. However, if your horse as a Big Racer/unpredictable/jumper personality, Control talents and Big Racer are very desirable because that would make it a Championship potential winner horse (again, see the Perso/Talent point mini guide for more details).
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''Example: A level 1-25 would cost roughly 35 mil (5 mil, L1-10 + 15 mil, L10-20 + 15 mil, L20-25)''
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Keep in mind, some talent point placements go better with certain personalities than others (like the example above), but these are general opinions and you can discover what people like by experimenting.
 
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''What's important to remember is that"Extreme" personalities are considered better than "middle" personalities.''
 
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An extreme personality is when a personality trait (flat track bully/big racer, unpredictable/professional, stubborn/adaptable, jumper/flat runner, chaser/front runner) is way over to the left or right of your screen (towards one of the traits). You'll notice when you breed a foal, it gives you percents. I personally consider a trait to be extreme if the trait is at 95% or higher. Max personality trait is when a trait is at 100%.
 
  
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The more talents a horse has and the more extreme its personality traits are, the higher priced the horse will be.
 
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Female horses generally sell for a bit more than stallions because of the Stud Market.
 
  
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Currently, different breeds (rares/reward horses/old HA reel horses) sell for very different prices. Generally speaking:
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==Tips and must-read notes==
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*A breed is worth more if there are less than 200 in the game.
 
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*A breed is worth more if it is high level and has breeder or Big Racer talent points and matching extreme personality traits.
 
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*A breed is worth more if it has been levelled for breeding (level 30 or higher with 3 talent points in Top Breeder, and only tp in the boxes that are preferred)
 
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*Rare breeds that are lvl 30-50 with 11-12 born talents and 3 talents in top breeder can range from 100 mil to 600 mil depending on personality and exact level. Lvl 50 or higher can go up to a billion or more if the horse was born with 11-12 talents and has 3 talents in breeder.
 
  
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🌟 Horses with mixed personalities (some bars are maxed, the rest are mid or weak) and horses with the wrong tp placement falls into the category '''below''' their would-be category. E.g. a 12tp would-be max personality rare in the 50-150mil range would fall into the Weak range of 20-35m if its personality is mixed and/or its tp placement is wrong. The same goes for regular horses.
  
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'''Example Pricing Walk Through:
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✨ When pricing Reward horses, base value goes by 10 LP = 100 mil value for customs (L1, personality still changeable, tps unplaced). For non-custom reward horses (rewards with non-max personalities and/or wrong tp placements), their value is lowered. The amount their value is lowered with depends on if the horse is resetable.  
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[[File:Lynx.jpg]]
 
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[[File:Lynx TP.png]]
 
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[[File:Lynx Perso.png]]
 
  
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12tp born Lynx lvl 30 (18 stars total), has max/heavy personalities with "matching" talent point placement (the talent points are not on Big Racer or Show Jumper, as these would not help the "Flat Track Bully" personality). However, the horse has no breeder talent points (the horse would need to be leveled to 45 to add 3 breeder talents to add more value). Approx. value for a horse like this is 200-300 mil depending on the need/popularity for the Lynx breed.'''
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🌟 Demand plays a large part in value. Older rares that are in low demand will not sell as quickly as newer rares that are in higher demand. Also note, that brand new rares can sell for up to 200% of their base value the first few days after being released - this is because of the high demand.
  
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==Special Circumstances/AD purchases==
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✨ Try selling the lower tier horses to The Academy. The Academy will pay 100,000 per level of the horse. You could eventually level a low tier horse to 10 and sell it to The Academy for 1 mil.
  
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🌟 Note that Big Racer horses often sell at the high end of the given price range. This is because Championships have a higher payout of prizes than other types of competitions.
  
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*Reward horses are worth more because they can not be created through breeding. Other factors such as the number of Loyalty Points used to purchase a reward horse, must be taken into consideration.  However, brand new breed-able rares tend to sell well too, because not everyone has the horses required to breed them when they first come out.
 
  
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*Horses won through the raffle are '''extremely valuable''' (billions of dollars, though usually, owners of these horses will only sell for AD through the game creator).
 
  
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*'''Breeds that are over lvl 40 "may" (depends on perso and talents again, and typically only Reward horses) be worth Academy Dollars. But since these are not very common transactions, it's up to the buyer and seller determine the amount together. See the [[Mini Guide: Buying/Selling for AD]] for information and rules about AD transfers.
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'''This guide was written by Camilla-Marie, February 2019 and will be updated every 3 months. Last update: February 2019.'''

Revision as of 13:46, 19 February 2019

Disclaimer: Keep in mind this is a pricing "guide" and not a set in stone pricing manual. As the game changes with updates and supply/demand changes, so will the pricing ranges. However, using this guide will help you to sell and buy successfully.

Golden Rule:

A horse is worth what the average buyer is willing to pay for it.


Pricing Guide for regular horses

Pricing for regulars with max (95%+) personalities at Level 1

9tp and below = 100k

10tp = 200k - 300k

11tp = 300k - 400k

12tp = 500k - 1.5m

Pricing for regulars with weak (75-85%) personalities at Level 1

9tp and below = 100k

10tp = 150k - 200k

11tp = 200k - 300k

12tp = 300k - 400k

Pricing for regulars with middle (<75%) personalities at Level 1

9tp and below = 100k

10tp = 100k

11tp = 100k - 150k

12tp = 150k - 200k


Pricing Guide for rare horses

Pricing for rares with max (95%+) personalities at Level 1

6tp and below = 100k - 1 mil

7tp = 5 mil - 7 mil

8tp = 6 mil - 8 mil

9tp = 7 mil - 9 mil

10tp = 8 mil - 10 mil

11tp = 10 mil - 20 mil

12tp = 50 mil - 150 mil

Pricing for rares with weak (75-85%) personalities at Level 1

6tp and below = 100k - 650k

7tp = 4 mil - 5 mil

8tp = 5 mil -6 mil

9tp = 6 mil - 7 mil

10tp = 7 mil - 8 mil

11tp = 8 mil - 10 mil

12tp = 20 mil - 35 mil

Pricing for rares with middle (<75%) personalities at Level 1

6tp and below = 100k - 350k

7tp = 1 mil - 2 mil

8tp = 2 mil - 3 mil

9tp = 3 mil - 4 mil

10tp = 5 mil

11tp = 5 mil - 8 mil

12tp = 10 mil - 20 mil


Pricing Guide for Daily Prize Wheel horses

Low Tier

Rosetta Stone = 35 mil - 75 mil

Rosetta Stonicorn = 50 mil - 100 mil


Glow Peacock = 50 mil - 100 mil

Glow Peacock Unicorn = 75 mil - 150 mil


Forest Kitty = 75 mil - 150 mil

Forest Kitticorn = 100 mil - 200 mil


Middle Tier

Bumblebee = 150 mil - 250 mil

Bumblebee Unicorn = 250 mil - 300 mil


Snuffles = 300 mil - 400 mil

Snuffliecorn = 400 mil - 500 mil


CooCooCaChu = 500 mil - 600 mil

CooCooCaChuCorn = 600 mil - 700 mil


Puddly = 700 mil - 800 mil

Puddlicorn = 800 mil - 1 bil


High Tier

Koda = 1 bil - 2 bil

Koda Unicorn = 2 bil - 3.5 bil


Obsidian = 3 bil - 5 bil

Obsidian Unicorn = 5 bil - 7.5 bil


Paradox = 6 bil - 8 bil

Paradox Unicorn = 8 bil - 10 bil


Firebringer = 10 bil - 12 bil

Firebringer Unicorn = 12 bil - 15 bil


Kumari = 15 bil - 17.5 bil

Kumari Unicorn = 17.5 bil - 25 bil


Note: The value of Daily Prize Wheel horses decreases as more horses are won. The speed of decrease in value depends on the difficulty of winning one of the horses; therefore low tier horses will have their value decreased faster than high tier horses.

Pricing Guide on leveled horses

When pricing horses, you must also include their level value. The above guides are for level 1 horses. Level values vary depending on the trainer used, but the average level values are as follows:

1 - 10 = < 5 mil

10 - 20 = 5 mil - 15 mil

20 = 30 = 15 mil - 30 mil

30 = 40 = 50 mil - 100 mil

40 = 50 = 100 mil - 200 mil

50 = 60 = 200 mil - 300 mil

60 - 70 = 500 mil - 1 bil

70 - 80 = 1 bil - 1.5 bil

80 = 90 = 1.5 bil - 2 bil

90 = 100 = 2 bil - 3 bil

To calculate the horses total training value, add each level gaps training value together to find the total. If the level goal is in the middle of a gap (level 25, for instance) go by the low end of the scale. Example: A level 1-25 would cost roughly 35 mil (5 mil, L1-10 + 15 mil, L10-20 + 15 mil, L20-25)


Tips and must-read notes

🌟 Horses with mixed personalities (some bars are maxed, the rest are mid or weak) and horses with the wrong tp placement falls into the category below their would-be category. E.g. a 12tp would-be max personality rare in the 50-150mil range would fall into the Weak range of 20-35m if its personality is mixed and/or its tp placement is wrong. The same goes for regular horses.

✨ When pricing Reward horses, base value goes by 10 LP = 100 mil value for customs (L1, personality still changeable, tps unplaced). For non-custom reward horses (rewards with non-max personalities and/or wrong tp placements), their value is lowered. The amount their value is lowered with depends on if the horse is resetable.

🌟 Demand plays a large part in value. Older rares that are in low demand will not sell as quickly as newer rares that are in higher demand. Also note, that brand new rares can sell for up to 200% of their base value the first few days after being released - this is because of the high demand.

✨ Try selling the lower tier horses to The Academy. The Academy will pay 100,000 per level of the horse. You could eventually level a low tier horse to 10 and sell it to The Academy for 1 mil.

🌟 Note that Big Racer horses often sell at the high end of the given price range. This is because Championships have a higher payout of prizes than other types of competitions.


This guide was written by Camilla-Marie, February 2019 and will be updated every 3 months. Last update: February 2019.

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