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==Pricing Guide for Reel Horses==
 
==Pricing Guide for Reel Horses==
  
'''Note: This guide is only for reel horses won on the 3D version of the game!'''
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'''Note: This guide is only for reel horses won on the 3D version of the game! Reels from the previous versions of the game should not be priced based on this guide.'''
  
 
Reel horses refer to horses won in the mini-games such as the Slots Machine and the Blocks game. A new reel is added every 1st of the month, and the previous reel is removed.
 
Reel horses refer to horses won in the mini-games such as the Slots Machine and the Blocks game. A new reel is added every 1st of the month, and the previous reel is removed.
  
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Reels sell for varying amounts, depending on tp amount and how quickly it's won after its release on the 1st of the month. Reels, even low tp, will sell for large amounts during the first week, but value will gradually decrease afterwards.
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'''Week 1 - Day 1 to Day 7'''
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6tp =  
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0tp = ~100 mil
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8tp =  
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1tp = ~100 mil
9tp =
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10 tp =  
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2tp = ~200 mil
11 tp =  
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12 tp =
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3tp = ~300 mil
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4tp = ~400 mil
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5tp = ~500 mil
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6tp = ~600 mil
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7tp = ~700 mil
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8tp = ~800 mil
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9tp = ~900mil
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10 tp = 1+ bil
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11 tp = 1.5+ bil
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12 tp = 2+ bil
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'''Week 2 - Day 8 to Day 14'''
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0tp = ~20 mil
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1tp = 20 mil - 10 mil
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2tp = 40 mil - 20 mil
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3tp = 60 mil - 30 mil
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4pt = 80 mil - 40 mil
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5tp = 100 mil - 50 mil
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6tp = 120 mil - 60 mil
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7tp = 140 mil = 70 mil
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8tp = 160 mil = 80 mil
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9tp = 180 mil - 90 mil
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10tp = 500 mil - 200 mil
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11tp = 1 bil - 500 mil
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12tp = 2 bil - 1 bil
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'''Week 3 - Day 15 to Day 21'''
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0tp = ~15 mil
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1tp = 15 mil - 10 mil
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2tp = 20 mil - 15 mil
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3tp = 30 mil - 25 mil
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4tp = 40 mil - 30  mil
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5tp = 50 mil - 40 mil
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6tp = 60 mil - 50 mil
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7tp = 70 mil - 60 mil
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8tp = 80 mil - 70 mil
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9tp = 90mil - 80 mil
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10tp = 200 mil - 100mil
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11tp = 500 mil - 250 mil
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12tp = 1 bil - 800 mil
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'''Week 4 - Day 22 to Day 28'''
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0tp = ~10 mil
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1tp = 10 mil - 5 mil
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2tp = 15 mil - 10 mil
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3tp = 25 mil - 15 mil
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4tp = 30 mil - 20 mil
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5tp = 40 mil - 30 mil
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6tp = 50 mil - 40 mil
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7tp = 60 mil - 50 mil
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8tp = 70 mil - 60 mil
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9tp = 80 mil - 70 mil
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10tp = 100 mil - 80 mil
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11tp = 250 mil - 150 mil
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12tp = 800 mil - 500 mil
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''Note: Reels can sell for up to 200% of their given price range depending on demand. Examples: A 12tp reel in Week 4 can sell for 1.6bil - 1bil (double the usual rate of 800 mil - 500 mil), if demand is high. A 3tp in week 2 can sell for 120mil - 60mil (double the usual rate), if demand is high.''
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'''Also note:''' ''A reel horse from the'' '''previous''' ''months will sell in the Week 4 range.''
  
 
==Tips and must-read notes==
 
==Tips and must-read notes==

Revision as of 13:29, 14 June 2019

Disclaimer: Keep in mind this is a pricing "guide" and not a set in stone pricing manual. As the game changes with updates and supply/demand changes, so will the pricing ranges. However, using this guide will help you to sell and buy successfully. If you have any suggestions for this guide, or anything you would like explained, contact Camilla-Marie in chat.

Golden Rule:

A horse is worth what the average buyer is willing to pay for it.


Pricing Guide for regular horses

Pricing for regulars with max (95%+) personalities at Level 1

9tp and below = 100k

10tp = 200k - 300k

11tp = 300k - 400k

12tp = 500k - 1.5m

Pricing for regulars with weak (75-85%) personalities at Level 1

9tp and below = 100k

10tp = 150k - 200k

11tp = 200k - 300k

12tp = 300k - 400k

Pricing for regulars with middle (<75%) personalities at Level 1

9tp and below = 100k

10tp = 100k

11tp = 100k - 150k

12tp = 150k - 200k


Pricing Guide for rare horses

Pricing for rares with max (95%+) personalities at Level 1

6tp and below = 100k - 1 mil

7tp = 5 mil - 7 mil

8tp = 6 mil - 8 mil

9tp = 7 mil - 9 mil

10tp = 8 mil - 10 mil

11tp = 10 mil - 20 mil

12tp = 50 mil - 150 mil

Pricing for rares with weak (75-85%) personalities at Level 1

6tp and below = 100k - 650k

7tp = 4 mil - 5 mil

8tp = 5 mil -6 mil

9tp = 6 mil - 7 mil

10tp = 7 mil - 8 mil

11tp = 8 mil - 10 mil

12tp = 20 mil - 35 mil

Pricing for rares with middle (<75%) personalities at Level 1

6tp and below = 100k - 350k

7tp = 1 mil - 2 mil

8tp = 2 mil - 3 mil

9tp = 3 mil - 4 mil

10tp = 5 mil

11tp = 5 mil - 8 mil

12tp = 10 mil - 20 mil


Pricing Guide for Daily Prize Wheel horses

Bronze Tier

Rosetta Stone = 35 mil - 75 mil

Rosetta Stonicorn = 50 mil - 100 mil


Glow Peacock = 50 mil - 100 mil

Glow Peacock Unicorn = 75 mil - 150 mil


Forest Kitty = 75 mil - 150 mil

Forest Kitticorn = 100 mil - 200 mil


Silver Tier

Bumblebee = 150 mil - 250 mil

Bumblebee Unicorn = 250 mil - 300 mil


Snuffles = 300 mil - 400 mil

Snuffliecorn = 400 mil - 500 mil


CooCooCaChu = 500 mil - 600 mil

CooCooCaChuCorn = 600 mil - 700 mil


Puddly = 700 mil - 800 mil

Puddlicorn = 800 mil - 1 bil


Gold Tier

Koda = 1 bil - 2 bil

Koda Unicorn = 2 bil - 3.5 bil


Obsidian = 3 bil - 5 bil

Obsidian Unicorn = 5 bil - 7.5 bil


Paradox = 6 bil - 8 bil

Paradox Unicorn = 8 bil - 10 bil


Firebringer = 10 bil - 12 bil

Firebringer Unicorn = 12 bil - 15 bil


Kumari = 15 bil - 17.5 bil

Kumari Unicorn = 17.5 bil - 25 bil


Platinum Tier


Moonbow = 25 bil - 30 bil

Moonbow Unicorn = 30 bil - 40 bil


Glass Dragon = 40 bil - 50 bil

Glass Dragon Unicorn = 50 bil - 60 bil


Blood Oath = 60 bil - 70 bil

Blood Oath Unicorn = 70 bil - 80 bil

Note: Price ranges on Blood Oath and Blood Oath Unicorn is based on the steady increase in value of lower Platinum Tier horses. The first couple of Blood Oath / Unis sold can possibly sell for more than the estimated value.


Note: The value of Daily Prize Wheel horses decreases as more horses are won. The speed of decrease in value depends on the difficulty of winning one of the horses; therefore low tier horses will have their value decreased faster than high tier horses.

Pricing Guide for Gold Wheel horses

Gold Wheel horses value depends on the type and when they are won.

Previous Gold Wheel horses, when no longer on the wheel, typically sell for 100-350mil as customs.

Gold Wheel horses currently on the wheel (not including the Ghost) typically sell for between 300mil and 2 bil depending on how new the horse is, and if it has been released on the Gold Wheel before. A brand new one would sell for up to 2 bil, whereas it wouldn't sell for much more than 300mil after the initial 2 weeks.

Example: Euphorias are very low value, typically 100-200mil as custom, as they have been released on the Gold Wheel two years in a row for Valentines Day. Gold Wheel horses such as the Christmas Dragons and Blood Dragons that have only been released once sell for 100-350mil.

Ghosts are the standard Gold Wheel horse, and they sell for less than 200mil as Custom due to how common they are. Over 2500 Ghosts exist as per March 2019.

Pricing Guide for Reward horses

Reward horses value depends on their Loyalty Point cost. The exchange rate is 10 LP = 100 mil when the horse is custom or leveled with perfect personality and placement. If the horse is "ruined" (wrong tp placement, non-max personality) its value is lower; how much lower depends on if the horse can be reset.

Example: A 10LP horse is worth 100mil, and a 240LP horse is worth 2.4bil.

Note: This rate is also applied to Limited Editions, however, Limited Editions often go for up to twice their LP value. Example: 500 LP Limited Edition would have a base value of 5 bil but could sell for 10 bil.

Pricing Guide for leveled horses

When pricing horses, you must also include their level value. The above guides are for level 1 horses. Level values vary depending on the trainer used, but the average level values are as follows, and is written in this format:

  • Level value for this level gap (training value for a level x to y)
    • Level value at this level (total training value for a horse between level x and y)

Example: The first bullet point at the Level 40 = 50 gap says 100 mil - 200 mil value. That is the value for a level 40 - 50 training. The second bullet point at Level 40 - 50 says 175 mil - 250 mil; this is the total level value for a horse between level 40 and 50.




  • 1 - 10 = < 1 mil
    • < 1 mil
  • 10 - 20 = 5 mil - 15 mil
    • 10 mil - 20 mil
  • 20 = 30 = 15 mil - 30 mil
    • 25 mil - 50 mil
  • 30 = 40 = 50 mil - 100 mil
    • 75 mil - 150 mil
  • 40 = 50 = 100 mil - 200 mil
    • 175 mil - 250 mil
  • 50 = 60 = 200 mil - 300 mil
    • 450 mil - 750 mil
  • 60 - 70 = 500 mil - 1 bil
    • 950 mil - 1.75 bil
  • 70 - 80 = 1.5 bil - 2 bil
    • 2.45 bil - 3.75 bil
  • 80 = 90 = 2 bil - 2.5 bil
    • 4.45 bil - 6.25 bil
  • 90 = 100 = 3 bil - 4 bil
    • 7.45 bil - 10.25 bil


Note: When looking at total value for a horse at a certain level, remember to go by the low end or high end of the price range according to the horses level. A level 31 values would be the same value as level 30, not level 40.

Also note: Level values are lower on middle/weak horses as their performance, and thus value, is still worse/lower than max horses.

Pricing Guide for 100 Ticket Horses

All 100 Ticket Horses from raffles are worth 2 bil as customs.

Even though they cost 400AD/4bil value to get from the raffle does not mean they are worth that when being sold. It is for this reason that people will not pay AD value for LP horses (e.g. 1000 AD for a 200LP horse) - as soon as a horse is bought/won, its value decreases. A real life scenario would be buying a purse for $500 - you would not be able to sell it for $500 because it is "used".

Pricing Guide for Reel Horses

Note: This guide is only for reel horses won on the 3D version of the game! Reels from the previous versions of the game should not be priced based on this guide.

Reel horses refer to horses won in the mini-games such as the Slots Machine and the Blocks game. A new reel is added every 1st of the month, and the previous reel is removed.

Reels sell for varying amounts, depending on tp amount and how quickly it's won after its release on the 1st of the month. Reels, even low tp, will sell for large amounts during the first week, but value will gradually decrease afterwards.

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Week 1 - Day 1 to Day 7

0tp = ~100 mil

1tp = ~100 mil

2tp = ~200 mil

3tp = ~300 mil

4tp = ~400 mil

5tp = ~500 mil

6tp = ~600 mil

7tp = ~700 mil

8tp = ~800 mil

9tp = ~900mil

10 tp = 1+ bil

11 tp = 1.5+ bil

12 tp = 2+ bil


Week 2 - Day 8 to Day 14

0tp = ~20 mil

1tp = 20 mil - 10 mil

2tp = 40 mil - 20 mil

3tp = 60 mil - 30 mil

4pt = 80 mil - 40 mil

5tp = 100 mil - 50 mil

6tp = 120 mil - 60 mil

7tp = 140 mil = 70 mil

8tp = 160 mil = 80 mil

9tp = 180 mil - 90 mil

10tp = 500 mil - 200 mil

11tp = 1 bil - 500 mil

12tp = 2 bil - 1 bil


Week 3 - Day 15 to Day 21

0tp = ~15 mil

1tp = 15 mil - 10 mil

2tp = 20 mil - 15 mil

3tp = 30 mil - 25 mil

4tp = 40 mil - 30 mil

5tp = 50 mil - 40 mil

6tp = 60 mil - 50 mil

7tp = 70 mil - 60 mil

8tp = 80 mil - 70 mil

9tp = 90mil - 80 mil

10tp = 200 mil - 100mil

11tp = 500 mil - 250 mil

12tp = 1 bil - 800 mil


Week 4 - Day 22 to Day 28

0tp = ~10 mil

1tp = 10 mil - 5 mil

2tp = 15 mil - 10 mil

3tp = 25 mil - 15 mil

4tp = 30 mil - 20 mil

5tp = 40 mil - 30 mil

6tp = 50 mil - 40 mil

7tp = 60 mil - 50 mil

8tp = 70 mil - 60 mil

9tp = 80 mil - 70 mil

10tp = 100 mil - 80 mil

11tp = 250 mil - 150 mil

12tp = 800 mil - 500 mil

Note: Reels can sell for up to 200% of their given price range depending on demand. Examples: A 12tp reel in Week 4 can sell for 1.6bil - 1bil (double the usual rate of 800 mil - 500 mil), if demand is high. A 3tp in week 2 can sell for 120mil - 60mil (double the usual rate), if demand is high.

Also note: A reel horse from the previous months will sell in the Week 4 range.

Tips and must-read notes

🌟 Horses with mixed personalities (some bars are maxed, the rest are mid or weak) and horses with the wrong tp placement falls into the category below their would-be category. E.g. a 12tp would-be max personality rare in the 50-150mil range would fall into the Weak range of 20-35m if its personality is mixed and/or its tp placement is wrong. The same goes for regular horses.

✨ If you have a "ruined" reward horse, the original owner (the one who bought it from the store in the first place) can reset it back to custom for 10 AD (100 mil value) provided it has not been reset before.

🌟 Demand plays a large part in value. Older rares that are in low demand will not sell as quickly as newer rares that are in higher demand. Also note, that brand new rares and rewards can sell for up to 200% of their base value the first few days after being released - this is because of the high demand.

✨ Try selling the lower tier horses to The Academy. The Academy will pay 100,000 per level of the horse. You could eventually level a low value horse to 10 and sell it to The Academy for 1 mil.

🌟 Note that Big Racer horses often sell at the high end of the given price range. This is because Championships have a higher payout of prizes than other types of competitions.

✨ Regulars or rares with unlockable overlays or bases (e.g. Day of the Dead base, Chocolate Beauty base, Rainbow Zebra stripes skelibone overlays) are not worth more than regulars or rares without them.

Pricing tutorial

Here is a tutorial on how to use the pricing guide for those who need it. Remember, you must first figure out your horses baseline value from the appropriate section; level value, and tps, gets added after.

Example: Level 15, 14tp horse. You must first find the baseline value of the appropriate section, that means figuring out how many tp born the horse is - 11, in this case. Look at the 11tp value from the appropriate section. Then add level value on top.

Step 1: Figure out what section your horse belongs in - regular, rare, reward, 100 Ticket or Daily Prize Wheel.


Step 2: Figure out how many tp born your horse is. If you're unsure how many tp born your horse is, figuring it out is easy: a horse gets 1 tp every 5 levels. E.g. a level 20, 16tp horse had 1tp gained at level 5, 10, 15 and 20, therefore 16 - 4 = 12. Daily Prize Wheel, 100 Ticket and Reward horses are always 12tp born. Also note if the tp placement is correct for the horses personality - you can see correct placements here: [1]


Step 3: Look at your horses personality. Use the info given in this guide to see what section it belongs in. Each pricing section has a personality strength (e.g. 95%+). Horses with mixed personalities (some bars are maxed, the rest are mid or weak) and horses with the wrong tp placement falls into the category below their would-be category. E.g. a 12tp would-be max personality rare in the 50-150mil range would fall into the Weak range of 20-35m if its personality is mixed and/or its tp placement is wrong. The same goes for all kinds of horses.


Once you have found the appropriate section for your horse by using the steps above, you have figured out the baseline value for your horse - what it is worth as a Level 1. If your horse is higher than Level 1, move on to step 4.


Step 4: Look at the Leveled section of the pricing guide. If your horse is level 20, it is worth 10 to 20 mil in level value.


Step 5: Now you take level value and add to your baseline value, and voilá, you have your horses worth.



Example:

I have a level 20 Seaspirit (rare) that is max RLRLR (personality) and 16tps.

Step 1: The horse is a rare, so I look at the rare section of the guide.

Step 2: My horse has 16 tps at level 20, making it 12tp born.

Step 3: My horses personality is max RLRLR.

Using the above info, I can see my horses baseline value is between 50 and 150 mil. Big Racers are usually valued at the higher end of the given scale, but for this guide, lets value it at 50mil. But my horse is level 20, so I also need to look at training value, which I do in step 4:

Step 4: A 1-20 training is worth 10 to 20 mil.

Step 5: So now I take the baseline value of 50mil and add the training value of 10 to 20 mil, which results in a value range between 60 and 70 mil. That is my horses value.



This guide was written by Camilla-Marie, February 2019 and will be updated every 3 months. Last update: February 2019.